We opened with Flipbook, a generative visual web experiment where pages are rendered as AI-generated images instead of traditional HTML interfaces. The bigger question: what happens if software skips GUI frameworks entirely and models generate visual UI directly?

• Flipbook

• X-Pilot

• Coverage: Flipbook as a generative visual internet

Claude Design And The Limits Of Pretty Pixels

Chris tested Claude Design for slide creation and found the output visually polished but practically unusable. The discussion centered on design as intent, not aesthetics: Claude handled fonts and colors well, but missed constraints, hierarchy, format, and density.

• Claude Design

• Mike Krieger leaves Figma’s board

• Figma

Glaze And Vibe-Coded Desktop Apps

We talked through Glaze, Raycast’s new AI app builder, and Chris’s attempt to recreate a Ring camera desktop/menu bar app from a PRD. Glaze produced a functional TypeScript app shell, but authentication, live data, OAuth, and polish remain open challenges.

• Glaze

• Raycast

• Ring App Store

• Ring Live View

• Fly.io

Wrappers, Sandboxes, And Useful Local Apps

Jack proposed testing Glaze with an FFmpeg wrapper: a simple drag-and-drop video converter with presets. The point was to see how far these AI-built app platforms can reach beyond mock UI and into real local tooling.

The results were not bad with a one-shot prompt!

• FFmpeg

• Permute

Recursive As A Vertical IDE Platform

Jack shared progress on Recursive after 1,500+ sessions using it as his primary development environment. The next step is abstracting the core into a monorepo so the same agent workspace, inbox, plugin system, automations, and tooling can power vertical apps for finance, writing, marketing, and more.

• Obsidian

• Model Context Protocol

• Copilot Money

• Xcode

Click, TestFlight, And Apple Review

The episode closed with a quick Click update: new builds are ready, but Apple review and TestFlight checks have slowed distribution to testers. The conversation touched on how review processes may be getting stricter, especially around privacy-sensitive app behavior.

• TestFlight

• Apple Developer

We’re Jack Bogdan (creator of Click) and Chris Messina (inventor of the hashtag), and this is where we figure things out loud.

This Week

In this episode we talk about what happens when the models get so good that you become the bottleneck. We dig into the foundations that let you actually leverage AI for native development, how to organize a massive codebase for agents, the insane list of features shipped in a few days, why Jack is building an automated CI/CD pipeline for content and docs, personalized release notes, and a brand new offline voice-controlled D&D experience called DM.MD.

Chapters

00:00:00 - Intro

00:01:49 - The buffer is gone

00:03:24 - Foundations that let you move at the speed of thought

00:07:44 - When the models got good enough to one-shot everything

00:13:03 - “Opus, take the wheel”

00:16:48 - Building the machine that builds the machine

00:26:31 - Software creators, not software engineers

00:29:15 - The automated content factory

00:36:00 - The feature avalanche

00:43:38 - Discovery is broken and nobody knows what to do about it

00:53:52 - What happens when your users want things to stay the same

01:05:00 - DM.MD

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